When Lies Become Normal In Politics - And Response (4)

Friday, February 15, 2019

The far right Trump cult has allowed themselves to be whipped into such misinformation frenzy, that colossal lying from our president is completely acceptable to them. 

The misplaced excessive admiration of Trump’s right wing cult has allowed lies to become normal behavior with our president. Promises made without follow through become lies – i.e. Mexico will pay for the Southern border wall? We can argue over his degree of deception; however, even the least educated person knows that his speech-making is continuously immersed in deception. Trumps lies have now reached the acute trauma scale, requiring absolute scrutiny together with judicial curative action.

Our democracy depends on trust; the scale of Trump's lies coupled with his eccentric actions has reached a level that very much resembles that of a dictatorship. Regrettably we the people have, at the highest level, have permitted an autocratic cult leader to penetrate our democratic political system.  What's more, history has proven debasing and destroying the free press is the first step toward dictatorship. White house briefings are now deceitful in nature and have become a comic story. When our leader’s promises become lies and his erratic manic behavior becomes intolerable, our judicial system must correct by removing the problem. 

Johnny Jones

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It is fair to recognize shortfalls in our leaders because we all want the very best future. But “even the least educated person knows” it is wise to consider both sides of a discussion before damning the opposition. For example, listed below is a drastically abbreviated list of Obama lies which were enumerated in the liberal publication The New York Times, Dec. 14, 2017.  Can you even imagine how long the list would be in a conservative publication? 

The bottom line is everyone in DC is gaming, or lying or sometimes both. It’s, in part, human nature and part political survival and has existed for a couple thousand years or more. It’s up to us, We The People, to work together to find a solution because the fix isn’t going to come from within the swamp. There are too many creepy crawly things hanging around there, especially lobbyists.  

If we don’t start working together this grand experiment is going to crumble. For starters, what’s going to happen to that $22 trillion of current debt we have no willingness or ability to repay? The U.S. is no longer a AAA-rated (S&P 2011 downgrade) country for a reason.  But that’s a whole different opinion letter.  

President Obama’s Lies: 

Feb. 24, 2009. “We import more oil today than ever before.” (Oil imports peaked in 2005.)

March 10, 2009. “Our high school dropout rate has tripled in the past thirty years.” (It had actually declined by a third.) 

June 1, 2009. “If you actually took the number of Muslims [sic] Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.” (Almost 60 other countries were home to more Muslims.)

June 11, 2009. “No matter how we reform health care, I intend to keep this promise: If you like your doctor, you'll be able to keep your doctor; if you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan.” (Some people had to switch plans as a result of the Affordable Care Act)

Sept. 9, 2009. “One man from Illinois lost his coverage in the middle of chemotherapy because his insurer found that he hadn't reported gallstones that he didn't even know about. They delayed his treatment, and he died because of it.” (Delayed treatment didn't cause his death.)

Dec. 3, 2009. “I mentioned that I was in Asia on this trip, thinking about the economy. When I sat down for a round of interviews, not one of them asked me about Asia. Not one of them asked me about the economy.” (Several journalists did ask.)

April 21, 2010. “The vast majority of the money I got was from small donors all across the country.” (It wasn't.) 

Sept. 20, 2010. “Keep in mind the previous administration had been helping them, giving billions of dollars and just asking nothing in return.” (The Bush administration imposed multiple conditions on auto companies.) 

May 10, 2011. “Doubled our exports.” (Exports increased by less than half.) 

June 29, 2011. “What I have done – and this is unprecedented, by the way, no administration has done this before – is I’ve said to each agency, 'Don't just look at current regulations – or don't just look at future regulations, regulations that we’re proposing. Let’s go backwards and look at regulations that are already on the books, and if they don't make sense, let’s get rid of them.'” (Several previous administrations did.) 

Feb. 17, 2012. “American manufacturers are hiring for the first time since 1990.” (Manufacturing employment grew at times during the 1990s.) 

Sept. 20, 2012. “I think it’s important for us to understand that the Fast and Furious program was a field-initiated program begun under the previous administration.” (The program began under Obama.)

March 1, 2013. “The janitor, the security guards, they just got a pay cut and they've got to figure out how to manage that.” (Their pay wasn't cut.) 

Sept. 4, 2013. “First of all, I didn’t set a red line; the world set a red line.” (He did set a red line.) 

March 11, 2014. “Most young Americans right now, they’re not covered.” (Most were.) 

May 7, 2014. “Since 2007, [Republicans] have filibustered about 500 pieces of legislation that would help the middle class.” (The real number was closer to 50.) 

Sept. 7, 2014.“I wasn’t specifically referring to ISIL” (He was.)

June 29, 2016. “I mean, the steel industry is producing as much steel in the United States as it ever was.” (Steel production peaked in 1973.)

Alan Hintz

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I love lists!  I made one too!  These are the things that will keep me from ever voting for President Donald J. Trump: 

Sending pallets of money to Iran.

Having a Rose Garden press conference in celebration of a deserter.

Running to play a round of golf before the blood dries on the knife that was used to behead an American.

Charging a farmer for a pond.

Disrespecting police and military.

Bowing to a Saudi prince.

That's all folks!  Short list!

Sue White

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So, now we are lying about lies. That’s better??

Dennis Selvidge

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To Sue White,

I'm not sure what you mean. Maybe you were making a joke. Let's clarify who did what to keep correct information out there. 

You listed actions all taken by Obama. Then you say they're the reasons you won't vote for Trump.  Do you know that Trump didn't do any of them and that Trump criticized Obama when he did?  

If you support the actions you listed, you're definitely a Bernie or ACO Democrat and I can see why you don't support Trump. 

If you disapprove of the actions you list, then it's hard to understand why they make you unwilling to vote for Trump in 2020. 

Morgan Smith

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